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Karim Boughida, who's the Dean of University Libraries at the University of Rhode Island, and Chris Erdmann, Chief Strategist for Research Collaboration at North Carolina State University. The other area I think that is definitely an area where we could focus on and for what we hear from computer scientists and other people is that there's really a need for data ethics, so conversations around that. Again, just recently, I talked to a faculty member about one of his graduate students that was taking courses and getting a second degree in CS, particularly focusing on AI because he felt that that was an area where he could be a great use, a bridge. Karim Boughida: If you have strong (skills), in terms of the program inside, like Python or Jangle or Dancerflow, those help you transition to AI or in our field, if you have the data science or research data management, if you have strong programming background, you can transition to AI.